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what's up everybody

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having some internet troubles that's for

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sure so

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um

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hopefully everything works out okay

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um

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gotta do what you gotta do i guess it it

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was running super slow

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you know i'm trying to change the router

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we'll see how that works um can you guys

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hear me okay it looks like maybe there's

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a little

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delay going on or something possibly

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i'm not sure

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so hopefully it's nothing too bad

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um because that would suck

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that would really suck that would really

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suck

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what i'm going to start out with here is

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so i'm going to start out with something

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a little different i'm going to start

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out with a

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um video that i made i posted on twitter

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it went pretty well this is not relation

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to the case we're going to be talking

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about which is pretty interesting i must

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say

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um this is a case that was actually in

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one of rupelt's books

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um it happened july 14 1952 in norfolk

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virginia

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um and it's a pretty great case so

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i'm just gonna play that quick

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[Music]

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the following impressions were received

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by the pilots in our of interest to

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project blue book a

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the saucers were in a controlled

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formation and during deceleration prior

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to the change of direction they did not

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hold perfect formation but some almost

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overran the leader after the turn they

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were again in good formation b the glow

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of light on the top surface was related

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to the power source since in

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deceleration the light dimmed and

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apparently brightened when power was

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see thickness of the objects was

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estimated at 10 to 15 feet d the objects

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did not respond in natural laws and

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appeared weightless they were not

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affected by gravity or momentum since

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they changed direction 150 degrees

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without turning or coming to a stop

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no physical characteristics were

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noticeable except as already mentioned

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the light on the top of the saucers was

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internal and not projected since it was

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not reflected off the dc4

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if the light did not pulse but was

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steady and the objects were sharply

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outlined there was no corona or easy

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periphery surrounding them the dimming

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was as if it was by reduction of power

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they also went completely off

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instantly and instantly reappeared

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gee the objects are definitely not of

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earthly origin

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comments of preparing officer of report

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one the observers are considered

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reliable and evidently saw just what

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assuming that they were in view 10 miles

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period the disc covered at 20 miles in

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10 seconds a speed fantastic to

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air force comments five jet aircraft

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base at the time of observation after

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various checks was surrounding air force

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agencies it was concluded that the

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objects were not the five jet aircraft

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were made with negative results the air

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force conclusion is officially

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so yeah that's a video i think i'm gonna

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make more of those if you guys um like

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uh creativity in there which is pretty

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so let's just touch on some of the

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um some news somebody hit on it here

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uh mr dope knows

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so we got uh jacques vallee um

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super dudes love talking to him um so

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that's interesting because they're

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pretty much scooping up um everybody

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lou elizondo chris mellon um

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something that is a little bit weird to

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you know what does shock valet bring

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jacques valet brings

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something different to project galileo

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that's for sure i mean um first of all

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i hate saying interdimensional but i

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guess interdimensional but you know one

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searching for the truth he's still

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searching for answers

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which i know everybody else is too but

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unless something is like very clear i

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tempting it is to come up with a

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conclusion

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but you just can't do it you just can't

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do it you know you just can't and you

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tend to go towards

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a person like jacques valet i know he

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that you know it's it's like one of

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those things the

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more people you talk to that research

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um the the more they research it

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uh the less they know the less they

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that sorry i shaved my head not too long

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so that's pretty interesting um and you

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let me say what's up to everybody we got

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jay christopher king what's up buddy

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awesome can't wait to uh host uh leslie

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kane on wednesday with you sir that's

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going to be really super cool so i can't

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i'm not looking forward to that

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and we have grayskull

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what else we got ntm e9 some newer faces

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that usually aren't

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kind of here on a regular basis which i

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appreciate we got j long time no see

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awesome to have you here

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um mr robert goford

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um lara bug

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um who else we got jessie peak what's up

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man awesome to see you here diesel girl

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i'm glad you loved the video awesome

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um very nice bite-sized info dumb yeah

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josh awesome surf psych what's up

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awesome glad you're here christian

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awesome

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um dope knows yep everybody else who's

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here josh what's up uh witness citizens

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in the house

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that's awesome

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yo my guys sean mikey abstract is here

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uh craig t music everybody uh really

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blue book archives you really sometimes

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you're just picking random things and

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random projects or random files and you

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set of documents what may not be a good

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search now the search isn't perfect by

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any means that's for sure

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what words to use and all that kind of

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hopefully i say this right palomar

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getting readings on this and we're able

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to correlate some of these sightings

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so but you know me

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i rather just read from the documents

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that's my favorite thing to do

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because it's straight from the horse's

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i still love your content uh sorry yeah

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sorry bro i just you know did something

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um to kind of quiet out uh negativity

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for a second not that you were bringing

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it of course not you're a great guy

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um other things were and i was trying to

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get them out of my feed bro

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um so you know that's how it goes

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but i appreciate you here i appreciate

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everybody here

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um and showing support

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because this stuff does take a lot of

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so these are a couple of personalities

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university of el zone arizona an

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equipment lab at los alamos and you'll

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so i'm just going to skip through a few

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we're going to start here on december

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29th 1952 and we have preparation for a

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trip to los alamos new mexico and the

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west coast and this trip is from captain

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rupaul

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so

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people are getting these um

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uh geiger counters

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readings

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and they're matching them with

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unidentified flying objects that are

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showing up

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and sometimes they're

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you know seeing them in the paper like

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you know a couple days later and want to

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be in you know at the same time their

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geiger counter went up so

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um that's just a little back story and

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now there is some meetings happening

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with some of these scientists who were

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getting those readings and blue book and

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they're trying to get a grasp on this

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because rupaul actually has past

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information of this happening at other

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places one of which is oak ridge if

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you're familiar with that one i think

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it's in 1949 or something oak ridge um

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had a couple instances of that happening

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and then mount palomar in california so

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fast forward here to

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shortly after christmas

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1952 and keep in mind contextually um

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you know what happened in 1952 earlier

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that year i mean we had the washington

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dc thing 1952

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was probably yeah jay you're right 1952

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was a busy year um could be

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maybe

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the busiest year i'm not positive but it

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could be

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at least from you know 47 to

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so we have

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i'm just going to start reading from

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this a little bit

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this is a memorandum for the record um

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we have captain rupel called lieutenant

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colonel paul division of

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military application atomic energy

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commission washington dc purpose for the

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call was to coordinate the visit to los

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alamos um colonel bootman

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has previously been briefed on the

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possible correlation between detection

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of radiation from unknown sources in

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unidentified flying objects by captain

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rupaul during a visit to aec

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approximately two weeks ago

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colonel was requested to contact los

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alamos laboratories and request that mr

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carter mr gettings and mr shim

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simmons come to albuquerque for the

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interrogation if possible

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in this was possible i think they meant

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if

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requested that rupal and lieutenant

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olsen be given a clearance to talk with

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them at los alamos so basically they get

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um and colonel stated it would

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be all right for attic to make direct

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contact with these people to arrange for

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a briefing and this is interesting

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because it's a

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sandia

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um

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corporation

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not like labs unless it's the same i'm

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not sure

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i guess i could have checked that but

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here we go

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and we got some duplicates in here so

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i guess we're going to rewind just a

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little bit more on the evening of the

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15th of december 52 rupert called the

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homer giddings jr

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los alamos new mexico the purpose of the

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call was to contact mr

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whoever

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in regard to some previous data that

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rupa had obtained about a correlation

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between sightings and radiation

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although not too much debt obtained over

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the phone

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uh mr whoever did shed some light on

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some of the questions that had been

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asked in regard to the correlations

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um

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mr dobia was the person who knew people

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at mount polymer that was in 1959 on

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thanksgiving by the way

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the gentleman involved at the sightings

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at los alamos

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stated that between october 1st 51

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and october 1st 52

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he had picked three or four definite

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indications of radiation from unknown

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sources that several of them have

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correlated with newspaper articles

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within two hours

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he was not sure how many mr

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in describing it this is interesting so

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in describing the nature of the

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radiation which had been picked up

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he stated that they picked up a vertical

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component a particle that penetrated

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three thin walled tubes in the roof of

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the building

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the tubes are 5 8 inches in diameter and

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2 inches on center

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he stated that they had checked all

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sources of radiation from the laboratory

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and that this type of radiation was far

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so not natural basically

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i was asked to obtain more information

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in the type of equipment you use to get

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give me more information

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basically

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and then we have another rerun there

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so

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you know i've been seeing

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these folks lately

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and it's the

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the navy pretty interesting

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so we have here at the request reference

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an effort has been made to discover

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additional information concerning

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reoccurrences of the type reported by

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down a little bit

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so they haven't got any more it

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basically is what they're saying the

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navy here but although they took the

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equipment down

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like a year ago okay well that could be

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why

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so enclosed is forwarded for the

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convenience

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of thomas it's believed to be a full

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account containing all that was known at

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the time subsequently the only

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development known to this office came in

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january 50 when in response to further

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uh so

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this is actually this is important

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because here they say

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they did a detailed check faulty fuse

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so but when they recreated this scenario

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uh they used a lot more than one

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geiger counter coincidence finder they

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also used other tools and they were all

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corroborating each other so i'll get to

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all right so

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on the date here it looks like we just

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keep going backwards which is

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interesting

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uh after briefing but again like i

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you know like

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it's interesting that all this stuff is

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in this

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folder for that just says

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california basically this blue book

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so

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major hermann december 1st 52 after

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briefing by bauer rubel of this center

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on unidentified flying objects at los

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alamos crew arranged a special meeting

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with a small group from the laboratory

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several of these people had evidence

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possible correlation in ufos and unusual

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uh the prelim data obtained from these

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people has been studied and it is now

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believed advisable to contact them again

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and get more details to determine

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whether or not attic should

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make a more complete study of the

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subject

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top secret

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um rupaul who has an air force top

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secret uh q with type clearance you

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don't see that very often

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these were the people at the meeting

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signed it

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this goes through

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yeah short circuit in the counters not

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the

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on november 4th 52 rhubilt and olson

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visited colonel hood chief the nuclear

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powered aircraft branch of wadc

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which is right air development center by

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the way

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which i see them a lot

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lately

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previous to this visit colonel hood had

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contacted attic in regards to certain

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sightings of ufos at oak ridge

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national laboratory tennessee which we

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talked about

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in which he and the naval officer had

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attempted to obtain correlation between

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sightings of peaks and radiation

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so basically they keep talking about

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this um

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to affect this correlation they went to

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a radar site at knoxville he did not

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know for sure whether or not it was adc

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at the time he got a copy of their log

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of unknown tracks

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um they said it wasn't too successful

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but they were able to corroborate a

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couple unknown tracks

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and

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um

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radiation spikes

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christian aerial phenomenon department

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oh yeah

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that is definitely a thing aerial

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phenomena department yep

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uh they had names for this stuff that

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nobody even really well for the most

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part don't really realize but yeah there

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was an aerial phenomenon department and

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that was the department a part of

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that brand project blue book which was a

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so

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continue to talk about this stuff um

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they find a couple correlations from the

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airport in the unknown tracks

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no record it was made or kept

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consequently the percent correlation is

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not known

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so in the end really

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but there's a lot of big shots involved

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with this stuff colonel hood gave the

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name of a mr ed bettis at oak ridge

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national laboratory who could possibly

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give more details mr bettis is

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electronic specialist at the nepa

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the possibility of detecting the passage

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of a nuclear-powered aircraft was

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discussed

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colonel hood stated that ground counters

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would definitely register if such an

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aircraft passed overhead

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who had a nuclear-powered aircraft

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in 1952.

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uh he said that if he remembered

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correctly it had been computed that the

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aircraft being designed in the us would

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give it one

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run oh

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they had an aircraft being designed in

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the u.s a powered aircraft

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in 1952

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well

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he stated that naturally the shielding

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determines how much radiation would be

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detected on an unshield missile

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the level would rise by factor of 10.

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as far as can be determined this would

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be the only way to detect a

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nuclear-powered aircraft as the

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instrumentation was discussed colonel

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hood said that during 1915 airborne

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counter had been devised and attempts

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were made to use it in the wing tank of

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this is interesting number seven oh wait

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don't skip that so he stated that he

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didn't believe an airborne system would

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be too successful because the area would

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give radiation would be to localize his

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idea on instrumentation was to utilize a

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magnetometer

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in an effort to establish whether or not

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reported object was material or not

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contrary to what we've been told he

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believed that meter could be easily

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obtained and that had a fairly long

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range

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um he suggested a setup of several types

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of instruments all cross-checking each

577
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:26,159
other

578
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:29,520
a magnetometer a directional coincidence

579
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,750
and mr

580
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,710
robert

581
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:40,559
made the point that if you go back to

582
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:50,310
if you go back to the aztec case um

583
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,679
this solace newton

584
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:55,919
had something called a doodlebug

585
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,590
that and solace newton actually got

586
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,440
dumped on

587
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,350
this is interesting

588
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,840
a couple of pages up it says

589
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,679
that it began in january when a spike

590
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,440
was recorded january 6th was the day

591
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,080
that why not echo published the report

592
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:20,240
and then that evening this recited in

593
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:27,029
nice one

594
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,669
who had mentioned that his branch was

595
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,080
interested in einstein's latest theories

596
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,760
on a relationship between gravity and

597
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,760
the lines of magnetic force his branch

598
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,600
had contacted einstein

599
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,679
and obtained the names of several people

600
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,440
whom we thought could pursue this idea

601
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,880
further and determine how his theory

602
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,960
could be utilized for power

603
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,799
the office of flight research is now

604
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,480
contacting these people to see whether

605
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,320
or not they would accept a study

606
00:26:04,149 --> 00:25:56,960
contract

607
00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:07,190
interesting

608
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:09,269
what year did he apparently go check out

609
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,630
i don't know what year that is but it's

610
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:16,559
pretty interesting

611
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:19,760
here we have direct government paperwork

612
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,750
colonel hood's suggestion was that we go

613
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,760
ahead with a limited instrumentation

614
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,200
program

615
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,120
um his idea was that the cost would be

616
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,720
low and he believes we could get at

617
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,559
least preliminary data that we could

618
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:38,960
expand upon

619
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:40,960
he offered attic any aid his branch

620
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,110
the only conclusion they made a very

621
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,880
preliminary type of study on the

622
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,120
correlation

623
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,039
um there's definitely nothing to get our

624
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,960
teeth into again however there are

625
00:26:59,310 --> 00:26:56,640
indications that there may be some

626
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:59,320
correlation president

627
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:01,120
magnetometer

628
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:07,350
um

629
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:16,149
then we have a

630
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,039
dupe

631
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,389
pretty interesting though this einstein

632
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:24,159
stuff huh

633
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,080
colonel hood had mentioned the fact that

634
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,640
his branch was interested in einstein's

635
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,240
latest theories on a relationship

636
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,320
between gravity and the lines of

637
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,880
magnetic force

638
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:37,360
his branch has contacted einstein and

639
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:40,399
obtained the names of several people

640
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,830
i'll tell you one thing that this is

641
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,440
not um how

642
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,600
you know you talk if there's nothing to

643
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,240
the ufo thing

644
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,600
that's for sure

645
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,840
like all this is going on meanwhile

646
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,600
general sanford just a few months

647
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:01,919
earlier was telling everybody

648
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:04,000
the press that there's nothing to see

649
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:11,190
pretty

650
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,399
from that homer gettings

651
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,200
when

652
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,039
colonel bauer and i were at los alamos

653
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:20,799
on the 23rd of october giving the

654
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,559
briefing on uaps

655
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,320
we discussed the correlation between

656
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:29,200
sightings see i don't know what uaf is

657
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:32,080
unidentified ariel

658
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,470
i don't know what that what that is

659
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,080
and the detection of certain types of

660
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,919
radiation at the time we unfortunately

661
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,679
didn't get too many details down on

662
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,279
paper as we were too busy getting drunk

663
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:49,039
and talking

664
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,470
um so they're now attempting to run down

665
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,640
reports los alamos security people in

666
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,960
the navy reports at palomar

667
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,559
so we may not be able to find them

668
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:03,919
however

669
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:17,750
up so i'll skip that

670
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,350
interesting here uh second paragraph

671
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,279
i realize that all of these requests are

672
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,720
going to cause you and your people a

673
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,159
great deal of extra work we would

674
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:28,960
appreciate anything you can give us

675
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,039
however as we fully intend to follow

676
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,279
this through up to the point of setting

677
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,000
up a net of visual and instrumental

678
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:38,240
locations if necessary

679
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:39,440
your information will be used to

680
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:50,470
well i think it's pretty good

681
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,909
and you can read this as i go through it

682
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:58,070
if you all think of above data as too

683
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,000
much to get into a letter you would

684
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:01,840
rather not put in a letter we can come

685
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:12,310
and we're going down to this again

686
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:18,710
graph showing the time of day at which

687
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,120
off-scale motion of the geiger counter

688
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:22,559
recorded

689
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,600
occurred

690
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:24,720
graph showing the frequency of

691
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:28,000
occurrences on a calendar basis

692
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:33,350
somebody was misspelling a lot here the

693
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:43,669
[Laughter]

694
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,750
american pronunciation all right here we

695
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:47,760
go

696
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,870
oh man

697
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,880
commanding officer pasadena personally

698
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,799
investigated these incidents and while

699
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:00,880
he does not have a belief that they're

700
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,000
actually flying disks yet is at a loss

701
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:06,640
to explain the phenomenon

702
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,149
and it just continues to talk

703
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:20,559
so this is interesting here so

704
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,600
october 23rd 52 uh meeting at los alamos

705
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,960
more details on the above mentioned

706
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,559
subject were obtained the first incident

707
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,799
occurred several years ago in mount

708
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,279
palomara observatory in california

709
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,440
series of geiger counters a series of

710
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:35,760
geiger counters had been set up to study

711
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:38,720
cosmic ray activity one person involved

712
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,399
in the study happened to be outdoors

713
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:43,120
when he saw a v of these

714
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,559
of shiny objects go over

715
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,640
he immediately

716
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,880
uh went up to

717
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,039
what he immediately went inside the

718
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:54,559
observatory and found that the counters

719
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:57,200
had just pinned gone up to a maximum

720
00:32:04,149 --> 00:32:02,870
this naturally aroused the curiosity of

721
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,159
the people on the project and they

722
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,679
agreed that if it ever happened again

723
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,360
they would look outside sometime later

724
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:09,279
it did happen and they looked out and

725
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,389
uh that's pretty good correlation i

726
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:26,070
the navy

727
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,760
it was a navy cosmic ray contract

728
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:31,760
supposedly investigated

729
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:34,320
uh wrote a report and concluded that

730
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,240
this was all due to a circuit failure

731
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,919
the people operating this so then what

732
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,399
are you seeing on identifieds for you

733
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:47,029
you're seeing things with your eyes but

734
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,190
the people operating the equipment also

735
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,440
checked and are claimed to have flatly

736
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,440
denied this saying that due to the

737
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,080
circuitry it would be impossible for

738
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:02,559
similar failures to occur in all the

739
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,870
shortly after this occurrence one of the

740
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,960
persons involved in the incidents moved

741
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,559
to los alamos he continued to be

742
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:13,600
interested

743
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:17,519
setting up the same type of equipment on

744
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,880
their own time

745
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,360
they did this and they also detected

746
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,279
unknown radiation

747
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,039
in two instances they were able to

748
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,039
correlate these with newspaper reports

749
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,679
of the sighting of a ufo

750
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:31,760
in these instances the people could not

751
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,559
get outside to observe and had to depend

752
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:36,480
on newspaper reports of ufos for

753
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,149
the equipment was kept in operation

754
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,240
until december 1950 with no more pickups

755
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:45,440
at that time the equipment was

756
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:56,070
well this is interesting

757
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,840
there's no record of any incidents on

758
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,919
these dates this does not mean very much

759
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,000
however since it is known that a lot of

760
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:05,039
the incident files were destroyed

761
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,149
maybe that's where the

762
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:14,079
um

763
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,430
right here

764
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,909
photograph of the geiger counter setups

765
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,760
diagram of the setup and copies of the

766
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:34,000
traces of records are shown in the

767
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,510
and it should be noted all the people

768
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,760
involved are qualified scientists

769
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,639
working at los alamos

770
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:46,079
they have checked every possible source

771
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:47,760
of the radiation they can think of and

772
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:53,190
they discussed it with many people

773
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:55,200
including well-known scientists

774
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:58,000
visiting los alamos there is no ready

775
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,520
explanation

776
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,200
either for the source of radiation

777
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:03,680
detected or the correlation between

778
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,829
reports of these incidents were made to

779
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,160
the security force at los alamos and

780
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,000
supposedly it were to be forwarded to

781
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,920
the air force as far as can be

782
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:19,119
determined

783
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,750
what a joke along the same lines

784
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,440
attention can be called to the fact that

785
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,200
colonel from

786
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,520
um right air development center several

787
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,599
months ago and reported that the same

788
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:37,280
thing had happened at oak ridge

789
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,430
um conclusions the accounts of these

790
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,160
incidences they're still vague rather

791
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,000
vague too vague to draw any definite

792
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,680
conclusions as to whether or not further

793
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:57,440
actions should be taken how would you

794
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:03,190
you just let this pass oh yeah that's

795
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:04,160
weird

796
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,710
should be taken to investigate all

797
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:12,640
radiation monitoring stations in the us

798
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:14,320
to determine if more correlations are

799
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,750
all possible details of los alamos and

800
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,640
palomar sightings be obtained

801
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:28,160
this can be accomplished by attempting

802
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:29,839
to locate both the reports made by the

803
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,430
that's just you look at this and it's

804
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,520
just disappointing to see how

805
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:43,280
inept

806
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,990
and what a lake what a cover-up hey the

807
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:54,640
navy

808
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,150
the investigative world report included

809
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,680
that this was all due to a circuit

810
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,280
failure

811
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,880
and here we are the people the

812
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:06,640
scientists

813
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:13,430
for that to be the case that is not the

814
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:22,390
what a joke

815
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,160
look at

816
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:27,760
this could mean something to somebody to

817
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,630
yes thanks for catching that robert here

818
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:38,960
we have direct proof that all files are

819
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,870
i just went over that

820
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,390
because around that time they were

821
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,240
destroyed so here are

822
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,480
like some readings we need like a

823
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:55,920
scientist or somebody who knows what

824
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:03,030
because i don't know

825
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:04,390
i don't know

826
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,560
interesting that we have that data that

827
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:10,160
people complain we don't have maybe

828
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:21,589
indicated uh extremely high

829
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:24,400
rates is as follows all these days high

830
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:30,710
so we could do is go to our all

831
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:39,109
on my website you can look then and

832
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:40,320
check out

833
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,230
and working with the equipment wednesday

834
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,480
following airplane tests one signal

835
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,480
similar to the unknown will

836
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:53,280
occurred while moving the main 110 volt

837
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,800
connecting plug

838
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,400
following this one occurrence we were

839
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,480
unable to reproduce the phenomenon we

840
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,400
are completely at a loss to find any

841
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,240
reasonable explanation for the equipment

842
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,160
behavior we certainly appreciate your

843
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:06,079
cooperation in arranging for flights on

844
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:14,230
see if they could replicate it by

845
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:15,520
you know

846
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,710
and

847
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:30,470
look at all this talk about this look at

848
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:34,079
this division of military application

849
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,910
you know you think about that and then

850
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,520
you think about like the groups that

851
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,599
studied this stuff um

852
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,400
somewhere recently you know like um

853
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,280
advanced aerial threat identification

854
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,680
program

855
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:54,240
advanced weapons it's always advanced

856
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:01,910
division of military applications u.s

857
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,640
atomic energy commission

858
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:06,480
as you undoubtedly know this laboratory

859
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:13,190
for its staff members one purpose of

860
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,560
which is to keep us in touch with

861
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,240
technical and scientific developments in

862
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,760
parts of the country

863
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,319
other than los alamos to this end i

864
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:22,079
thought that perhaps the air force might

865
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,920
care to give us a talk on the technical

866
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,680
and scientific aspects of their studies

867
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,160
concerning the so-called flying saucers

868
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,480
if you think they might would you be

869
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:32,079
good enough to make inquiry through

870
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,990
perfect uh wish to make it perfectly

871
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,680
clear that the laboratory claims no

872
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,520
official cognizance in this field of

873
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:43,280
activity but it is my belief that our

874
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,720
staff members would be extremely

875
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:45,839
interested

876
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,720
in a discussion of the serious

877
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,480
and scientific

878
00:40:59,720 --> 00:40:53,119
aspects of the air force's studies of

879
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:02,150
[Music]

880
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:04,839
united states atomic energy

881
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:07,440
commission so this is perhaps when the

882
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:16,790
on these serious and scientific aspects

883
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,240
of the flying saucers

884
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:22,560
as they were obviously very interested

885
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:30,230
and here we have a

886
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,040
yeah go ahead

887
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:35,599
let's do it

888
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,950
and the strength of your informal

889
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,880
indication that a tick could possibly

890
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,720
accommodate the request of los alamos

891
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:46,240
staff members

892
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,440
on flank saucers i am taking the liberty

893
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,079
of so notifying dr crew

894
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,710
since you will note los alamos request

895
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,280
is posed at the convenience of attic i

896
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,960
would appreciate very much a member of

897
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,440
your staff contacting dr crew directly

898
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,680
to arrange details

899
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:07,680
so it's on

900
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:20,550
it is happening

901
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,990
it happened it happened yo

902
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,470
um

903
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:30,710
she batman with the u.s atomic energy

904
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:33,520
commission requesting briefing

905
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:36,720
um a tick would be very glad to present

906
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,030
they're always calling this

907
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,440
different here it is unidentified aerial

908
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,040
objects

909
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,880
to the bi-weekly i'll let your

910
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:48,400
laboratory within the next few weeks

911
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
personnel from this center will be

912
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,079
making a trip to the west coast

913
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:54,400
and will plan to stop off in los alamos

914
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,800
at the present time no definite date can

915
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,119
be set but as soon as plans for the trip

916
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:01,839
are finalized you and budman will be

917
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:03,760
contacted

918
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,560
clearance is arranged

919
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:09,040
it is believed that such a briefing will

920
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,079
be of great value

921
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:14,079
qualified scientists such as those at

922
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,870
on various technical and scientific

923
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:23,359
aspects of the problem

924
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:38,470
so

925
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,190
this interesting paper that's

926
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:47,760
like not in order of what it should be

927
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,390
so here's kind of the rundown of mount

928
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,400
polymer

929
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,079
uh one of the scientists at california

930
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,160
institute technology reported to the

931
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,839
office of naval research washington he

932
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:07,760
heard a fantastic story flank disping

933
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:12,550
the unusual feature of the report being

934
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:15,280
that a recording geiger counter was so

935
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,510
that it went completely off scale if

936
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:24,160
true of course has meant possibly that

937
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,680
excuse me the flying discs were powered

938
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,839
by some form

939
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:29,599
of atomic energy

940
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,119
two different uh men at the observatory

941
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:34,880
had witnessed these incidents contact

942
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,520
made with the doctor of naval

943
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,839
electronics laboratory who's operating

944
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,440
the recorded geiger counter on a

945
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,520
continuing basis

946
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,760
doctor went to palomar to investigate

947
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:47,599
the stories and brought back the tape

948
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,319
showing the unusual oscillations of the

949
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,359
pen doctor could offer no explanation

950
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:55,119
although he's skeptical of any flying

951
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:59,040
disc story so the doctor himself

952
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:00,880
didn't have an explanation he didn't

953
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,589
of

954
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,710
possibly checking if it was faulty

955
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,390
no but that's what the navy said of

956
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,160
course

957
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,680
that wasn't the case they were not

958
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:18,880
faulty

959
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,109
by probably smarter people than the ones

960
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:28,000
who said that they were faulty

961
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:29,599
it was not likely that the reaction of

962
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,160
the geiger counter was the result of an

963
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:34,240
atomically powered plane in as much as

964
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:35,839
the pen went off scale and returned to

965
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,480
scale in a matter of seconds

966
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,800
whereas the polluted air from an atomic

967
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:43,040
engine would tend to linger in the

968
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,839
facility for some

969
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,119
minutes it was most likely that the

970
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,520
electrical relaying or amplifying

971
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,680
mechanism of the counter had been

972
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:54,319
activated by planes radio oh but you

973
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:55,520
know what that's why they did the

974
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:57,040
flyovers

975
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,720
and guess what happened

976
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:00,560
nothing

977
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:07,190
so

978
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,560
wrong

979
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:10,000
in the meantime an effort was made to

980
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:11,680
find out if a planes from naval air

981
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:15,200
station had been in the vicinity

982
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:21,349
it's like they're always fighting

983
00:46:25,310 --> 00:46:25,040
against something being

984
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,320
um

985
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:27,200
[Music]

986
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,480
just like

987
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,560
out of their realm of being able to

988
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:31,839
figure out

989
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,839
you know

990
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:35,440
they make up something about the geiger

991
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,599
counters being faulty

992
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,440
here

993
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,359
they're saying um

994
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,960
they probably went off because of the

995
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,040
radio or whatever of the planes they did

996
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:47,200
a fly over nothing happened

997
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,710
you know

998
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,200
and then here we are

999
00:47:03,190 --> 00:46:59,520
well let's still find out if planes

1000
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,200
went over on the dates no they didn't

1001
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:04,640
stop trying that

1002
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,390
think outside of the box

1003
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:18,950
yes hydra mikey

1004
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,000
can we get more likes for this stream

1005
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:24,240
oh yeah we got 42 people in here and if

1006
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,480
i'm done and there ain't 42 thumbs up

1007
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:29,440
i'm gonna be pissed

1008
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:32,640
for all the reading i'm doing here

1009
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,790
interesting him

1010
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,720
they used both conventional and jet

1011
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:47,910
the results were completely negative the

1012
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:50,960
geiger counter made no unusual recording

1013
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,990
what do you know

1014
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,839
why are they even doing this if it was

1015
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:05,040
faulty

1016
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,119
so why would they do it

1017
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:11,119
why would they even do the flyovers if

1018
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,720
they already knew the counters were

1019
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:14,160
faulty

1020
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,390
in the opinion of the personnel of

1021
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,559
office of naval research pasadena the

1022
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,559
objects cited were probably conventional

1023
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:32,319
aircraft which appeared to be abnormal

1024
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:35,520
and designed due to lighting conditions

1025
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:41,030
man that's it

1026
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,670
huh

1027
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,119
well that explains it well what about

1028
00:48:51,290 --> 00:48:48,800
the geiger counter

1029
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:51,300
that's unexplainable oh

1030
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:03,030
oh man

1031
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,230
oh here we here oh here we go

1032
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,480
but most unlikely that some member of

1033
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,400
the observatory staff has been playing a

1034
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,240
practical joke they're playing a

1035
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:14,400
practical they're just like checking

1036
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:18,079
every pocket practical joke no um planes

1037
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:18,960
no

1038
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,040
let's just forget it

1039
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,319
let's just move on then

1040
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:29,680
i don't know

1041
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,200
i can't figure it out so

1042
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,040
uh-huh

1043
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:36,960
the personnel of the observatory and of

1044
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,040
california institute of technology who

1045
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,720
jointly operated the observatory with

1046
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,720
the carnegie institute have made urgent

1047
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:44,880
requests that no publicity be given so

1048
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,760
nobody even wants publicity for this

1049
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,599
another interesting thing is a lot of

1050
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:52,079
witnesses

1051
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,040
usually of the the higher strangeness

1052
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,040
cases

1053
00:50:04,710 --> 00:49:59,359
are listed on the documents as not

1054
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:06,630
now why would that be

1055
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,160
they want to report a ufo

1056
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,520
to the air force

1057
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:12,960
and

1058
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,480
that's like all they're in it for they

1059
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,920
don't want publicity they just want to

1060
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,520
report it

1061
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,440
to the air force

1062
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:21,839
that's their big thing

1063
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,920
what crap

1064
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:26,400
personality observatory

1065
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,000
uh yeah adverse publicity

1066
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,000
which they are most anxious to avoid

1067
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,480
accordingly it is strongly urged that

1068
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:37,200
these stories not be made available to

1069
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:49,430
keep it away from the press

1070
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,470
october 1449

1071
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,400
mr whoever left the observatory and

1072
00:51:01,589 --> 00:51:00,000
started to drive down to the mount dew's

1073
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,599
home the weather was good clear overhead

1074
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,599
some clouds 45 degrees from the horizon

1075
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,359
below after going a short distance down

1076
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,520
the road he observed some objects now

1077
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,280
this reminds me of uh

1078
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,440
close encounters of the third kind

1079
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,800
after going a short distance down the

1080
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,400
road he observed some objects proceeding

1081
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,319
in the northwesternly direction height

1082
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:18,319
at five thousand feet above him

1083
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,839
about ten thousand five hundred feet

1084
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,520
above sea level because of the unusual

1085
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,200
appearance of these objects and of the

1086
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,200
unusual sound he stopped his car and got

1087
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,040
out to have a better look he reported

1088
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:28,880
that he observed no wings or tail

1089
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:31,680
structure the objects numbering about 16

1090
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:34,960
or 18 were flying in a perfect formation

1091
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,839
of vovs and moving very rapidly the

1092
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,400
sound was similar to that of jets but

1093
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,079
not quite the same

1094
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:44,880
mr marshall had uh occasion to observe

1095
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:47,200
all types of aircraft frequently and is

1096
00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,549
you know

1097
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:05,990
interesting

1098
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:07,430
in a matter of seconds the planes

1099
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,040
disappeared to the northwest he

1100
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,280
described them as being of silver-like

1101
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,599
color no vapor trails were observed due

1102
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,599
to high speeds of motions sound appeared

1103
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,480
to be

1104
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,640
35-40 degrees behind the line of sight

1105
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,200
interesting shortly after this incident

1106
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,520
um advised him of what he had seen short

1107
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,079
time later went into the room of the

1108
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:28,000
powerhouse where the recording geiger

1109
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,359
counter

1110
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,359
placed there by the naval electronics

1111
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,280
laboratory was located noticed that the

1112
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,839
panda had made an off-scale motion to

1113
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,880
the right

1114
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,720
some time before

1115
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:40,160
the time appeared to be approximately

1116
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,119
thirteen fifteen at the same time which

1117
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:45,520
mister had observed the unusual objects

1118
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:53,750
so this

1119
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:57,040
this person who you know

1120
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,280
don't want any press nothing like that

1121
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,520
here at the bottom he's an electrician

1122
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:04,720
of considerable ability and

1123
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:12,630
man

1124
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:15,280
here we are 2022.

1125
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,270
an effort was made to report the

1126
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,119
incident to the naval electronics

1127
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,440
laboratory that weekend but contact

1128
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,119
could not be made

1129
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,760
with interested authorities now isn't

1130
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,839
that something

1131
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,599
contact could not be made with

1132
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:36,400
interested authorities

1133
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:39,040
so contact was made

1134
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:47,589
it should be noted here that the geiger

1135
00:54:05,510 --> 00:53:54,390
except when it was usually operating

1136
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,710
unfortunately

1137
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:12,790
and we have a repeat doc here we're

1138
00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:25,430
[Music]

1139
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:32,150
okay so this is interesting

1140
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:34,549
about two years ago

1141
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:37,359
oh this is not a duplicate okay

1142
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:44,470
uh we have another statement here valley

1143
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,480
center

1144
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,720
while the representatives of office of

1145
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,319
naval research pasadena naval

1146
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:52,000
electronics laboratory we're proceeding

1147
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,440
to mount palomar to investigate the

1148
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:55,359
flying saucer story why are they

1149
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,030
it's not their job to investigate this

1150
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:03,200
stuff

1151
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,559
you know it's supposed to be the

1152
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:06,880
freaking air force

1153
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,430
they stopped at the cafe at the foot of

1154
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the mountain which is operated by mister

1155
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,200
whoever quite by coincidence mister told

1156
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,200
them of a number of unusual observations

1157
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,520
made by him outside his cafe are two

1158
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,760
miniature observatories containing a 15

1159
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:25,440
inch and six inch telescope a number of

1160
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:26,400
different

1161
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:29,680
um stories were told by the cafe owner

1162
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,910
so here we go

1163
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,359
we're saying

1164
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,520
blue book is saying

1165
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,599
these are pertinent

1166
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:43,280
he stated that recently it's seen on

1167
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,440
friday the 21st of october a

1168
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,720
cigar-shaped object pointed at both ends

1169
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,400
without projections

1170
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,480
and was apparently well stabilized this

1171
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:54,799
is on the west coast

1172
00:56:02,549 --> 00:55:57,839
cigar shape is awful like awfully

1173
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,150
uh point at both ends without

1174
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,319
projections and were apparently well

1175
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,480
stabilized the altitude 7500 was

1176
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,799
estimated for the object the object was

1177
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,240
dark in color interesting that's

1178
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:14,880
different and appeared to be 500 feet or

1179
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,670
after standing still for an appropriate

1180
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,359
length of time it headed upwards at a

1181
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:25,200
terrific rate of speed leaving no vapor

1182
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:26,960
trail

1183
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:32,160
this observation was made with the naked

1184
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,920
eye it should be noted that this

1185
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,000
observation appears to have been made

1186
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,390
mr at the palomar observatory cited a

1187
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,280
similar object so we have two different

1188
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:47,119
unrelated witnesses

1189
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,510
with the geiger counter going off

1190
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:57,270
and all they can do is explain it away

1191
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,480
and not be interested

1192
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,319
about two years ago mr had observed an

1193
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,920
object through one of his telescopes

1194
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:03,599
stated that the object came in was

1195
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,960
relatively still for a while then

1196
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:06,720
disappeared rapidly the object appeared

1197
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,520
to be round and head around it a ring of

1198
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,760
some sort such as the planet saturn

1199
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,680
interesting when the object was first

1200
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:15,680
sighted the outside ring seemed to

1201
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:21,589
it's kind of like what i saw

1202
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,599
and upon the object getting away the

1203
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,200
counterpart appeared to rotate the

1204
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:29,040
counterpart appeared to rotate in a

1205
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:31,599
direction opposite to that of the ring

1206
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:39,109
he showed visitors newspaper clipping

1207
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,480
where he had addressed the local chamber

1208
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:41,920
of congress at a luncheon meeting

1209
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,079
narrating one or two stories of his

1210
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,920
unusual observations of flying saucers

1211
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:47,359
when he asked the gentleman present and

1212
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,240
if any of them had ever observed similar

1213
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:51,920
objects

1214
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,119
fully 25 or 30 of the members present

1215
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,520
acknowledged immediately that they had

1216
00:58:02,950 --> 00:57:59,760
seen similar objects but had been

1217
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:02,960
reluctant to report them for fear people

1218
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:24,390
and that's the last page

1219
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,789
that's the last page yo

1220
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:31,910
off the beam

1221
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:35,190
25 or 30.

1222
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:38,240
nobody wanted to be off the beam

1223
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:45,670
well

1224
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,319
i hope you guys enjoyed that uh

1225
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:50,640
kickback

1226
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:58,309
i think it's a great case

1227
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:00,789
we have cigar shape objects

1228
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:05,040
two people two different spots unrelated

1229
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,720
seeing the thing geiger counters going

1230
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:08,079
off

1231
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:14,630
and

1232
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:16,960
previous instances

1233
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,910
radiation spikes at um

1234
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,630
oak ridge

1235
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,109
pretty intensio

1236
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:33,200
pretty intense so

1237
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:35,839
do you guys want the documents for this

1238
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:38,640
one i bet you do don't you

1239
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,230
i will upload them

1240
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:46,559
for you if you would like

1241
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,750
but

1242
00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:55,200
it's good

1243
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:58,839
i always recommend that you read them

1244
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:00,480
yourself

1245
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:05,030
um

1246
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:07,760
because when i'm reading them

1247
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,400
sometimes i can go too fast or

1248
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:12,319
you know skip over an important part

1249
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:13,680
unfortunately

1250
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,589
so there you go take a look at it

1251
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:24,150
i hope you enjoy

1252
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:25,359
do you have a what the heck is that

1253
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,880
segment

1254
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:28,720
no not today

1255
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,000
not today unfortunately

1256
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,640
need some people to give me some videos

1257
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:36,960
for what the heck is that man

1258
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:45,430
oh that's awesome oh you guys are great

1259
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:52,390
you know participating

1260
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:54,480
very courteously in the chat

1261
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:56,640
and you know being here and supporting

1262
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:59,520
uh the episode

1263
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:01,680
i really do appreciate that

1264
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:03,040
um don't forget to like the video

1265
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,270
and i'm not doing a show tomorrow

1266
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:11,119
i'll be back wednesday

1267
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:14,240
uh with lizzie kane and jay christopher

1268
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:15,440
king

1269
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,079
so that's gonna be awesome 3 30.

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01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:19,920
um

1271
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:21,839
yes don't forget to smash that like

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01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:27,910
i'm gonna go out with just a little kind

1273
01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:30,079
of video i made it kind of like a short

1274
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,079
weird video that does make sense but it

1275
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:34,160
was fun to make so

1276
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:35,920
hope you like it

1277
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:38,880
um yeah

1278
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,040
thanks guys appreciate it love you

1279
01:01:44,309 --> 01:01:43,359
thanks for hanging out and we will see

1280
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,319
you

1281
01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:46,799
on wednesday peace we've made a lot of

1282
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,319
progress

1283
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,240
and uh

1284
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,559
i think the work we've done where we've

1285
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:54,240
now determined that

1286
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,039
not

1287
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,359
10 or 20 people have seen these

1288
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,760
kind of flying objects but hundreds and

1289
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:01,520
hundreds of people have seen them

1290
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:03,119
i think the american people are

1291
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:04,319
interested

1292
01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:07,200
and i think the more we study the more

1293
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:09,680
we don't know but the more we

1294
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,119
more we

1295
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,599
need to study more and more

1296
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:15,200
more work we do on this the better off

1297
01:02:20,890 --> 01:02:16,079
we are

1298
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:25,029
[Music]

1299
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:26,470
there's been plenty of times where i

1300
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:48,380
but something always brings me back

1301
01:03:04,549 --> 01:02:55,950
[Music]

1302
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:07,580
maybe it's my experience

1303
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:27,540
no

1304
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:53,000
i won't figure it out but i can try

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01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:03,780
[Music]